hi norma, thank you so much for the template. I've now made 4 advnet cards. i changed the panel around a little bit on a couple but i couldn't have done it without your help and inspiration so thank you again. I, along with many others in my ofcfie, have been loving your desktops every month. I look forward to seeing what you've come up with each month. Thank you for taking the time to create something so great!